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[BILL T]

...has this available if it interests you:

[Dr Bonz]

I think someone should buy it and post it on KaZaa!

Knowledge of copyright laws has forced me to state emphatically: I did not post the above suggestion! It must have been "THE EVIL" Dr Bonz! :p

[NSANY]

What is it with the recent trend towards black carbon fiber hoods? Some things in life I will just never understand...

[Boomer]

Originally posted by NSANY
What is it with the recent trend towards black carbon fiber hoods? Some things in life I will just never understand...

I saw a 240sx w/ a hood which must have cost more than the car. I'm exaggerating, of course, but why wouldn't you put the money into a better car? I guess they can't afford a better car, but don't save toward one and put on a carbon fiber hood instead. I like carbon fiber, but I wouldn't spend the money for a hood. I also don't like 2 toned cars.

[NSANY]

I think people just see carbon fiber and immediately assume -- "lighter and stronger", which can be false in both cases at times. When used properly, aluminum is both lighter and stronger than carbon fiber in equal-strength situations.

I suppose I can't expect those consumers to understand material physics, though. Upgrade #1 is a carbon hood, followed immediately by Upgrade #2 -- blinking washer jets.

[GUido]

Originally posted by NSANY
I think people just see carbon fiber and immediately assume -- "lighter and stronger", which can be false in both cases at times. When used properly, aluminum is both lighter and stronger than carbon fiber in equal-strength situations.


It's funny you mention that... when Corvette was designing their latest car they were trying to reduce weight in any manner possible. One are for weight reduction was the floorboards, they looked into carbon fiber, aluminum honeycombs.. you name it... you know what they finally decided on because it had the best strength to weight ratio?




















BALSA WOOD!


Yep... they used a balsa wood laminate that alternated grain directions... the funny thing was it was also the cheapest solution.....


maybe wood hoods will be the next "in thing"

[EnthuZ]

Wood Chassis? You've got to be kidding!:D :rolleyes: :D


Didn't SCCA Sports 2000 Lola's & Swift's back 20 years ago use wood in their floorpans as an inexpensive floorpan stiffener?

I will not comment about Morgan chassis.......:eek:

Wish I could afford a Chris Craft boat...... :mad:

Wood is Good!

Who will offer a Carpathian Elm booked hood first........:p

[Boomer]

Originally posted by EnthuZ
Wood Chassis? You've got to be kidding!:D :rolleyes: :D


Didn't SCCA Sports 2000 Lola's & Swift's back 20 years ago use wood in their floorpans as an inexpensive floorpan stiffener?

I will not comment about Morgan chassis.......:eek:

Wish I could afford a Chris Craft boat...... :mad:

Wood is Good!

Who will offer a Carpathian Elm booked hood first........:p

Guido is correct. They used it in the interior of the chassis because it was light but also sound absorbent. Its one of the reasons the C5s don't rattle and clank like the earlier Corvettes. Let me stress that it wasn't the primary material in the chassis, just a significant addition, but worked very well on the interior, like a sandwich.

No Morgan or Chris Craft, just some American ingenuity that worked when the bean counters weren't looking or balsa fit their budget.?

A Carpathian Elm!, you pay for the travel to Transylvania and we'll go shopping for vampire relics a la Vlad the Impaler. We'll make a fortune at SEMA next year.

Boomer babble

[dvlad]

So AU is stronger than CF?

Why then, are F1, CART, and IRL(open wheel NASCAR) all using CF for the monococ? Is it that CF is stronger when molded into a specfic shape?

I was always under the impression that while AU was lighter and stronger than Steel, CF was the true king in terms of stiffness - weight ratio. Tomorrow i have some reading to do :)


Comments?

dan

[BILL T]

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